# Layer 6 — Revocation & Rotation Cascades **Status**: Stub. May not be in v1. Drafted for design review only. **Scope**: Mechanism for a persona to un-vouch a specific vouchee without rotating `V_me` (which affects everyone), and for cascading rotations when a down-chain vouchee is un-vouched. --- ## The problem In Layers 1–5, the only way to revoke a vouch is to rotate `V_me` and re-distribute to every remaining vouchee. This is: - **Coarse**: rotates everyone to remove one. - **Expensive at scale**: O(remaining_vouchees) DM sends. - **Traceable**: observers can't see who, but a flurry of DMs hints at a change. - **Cascading**: if Alice rotates her `V_me`, every FoFClosed post Alice authored that was open to "friends" was open under `V_alice_old`; new readers on the updated `V_alice_new` can't decrypt old posts. Post-level Layer 4 rotation fixes this only if the author re-wraps every post under the new set. Layer 6 is where we explore whether any of these frictions is worth addressing, and at what cost. --- ## Out of scope for v1 Without Layer 6, here's what breaks vs. what holds: - **Holds**: FoF gating works. Revocation works (via coarse `V_me` rotation). Privacy properties intact. - **Breaks**: surgical un-vouch. If Alice wants to remove Bob but keep Charlie, she must rotate `V_alice`, re-give to Charlie. If she has 50 vouchees, that's 49 re-grants. Probably tolerable for a social-graph change that's inherently rare. Sharp corner only at large vouchee fanout. Lead leaning: **v1 ships without Layer 6**. Revocation is via coarse `V_me` rotation. Revisit after usage data shows whether surgical revocation is load-bearing. --- ## Candidate designs (if we do Layer 6 later) ### Candidate A: Revocation List signed by voucher Voucher publishes `(revoked_vouchee_id, since_epoch)`. Readers exclude posts whose `vouch_mac` identifies a chain through a revoked vouchee. Drawbacks: - Requires `vouch_mac` to be public (not just for author strict mode). - Publishes the social graph — the thing we worked to keep private. - Non-starter without Zero-Knowledge proofs. ### Candidate B: Per-vouchee key derivation Instead of one `V_me`, derive a per-vouchee key `V_me_bob = HKDF(V_me_master, bob_id)`. To revoke Bob, rotate `V_me_master` (affects everyone again — same problem). Alternative: author re-wraps posts under `V_me_current \ {V_me_bob}`. This is per-post rotation (Layer 4) with deliberate exclusion. Feasible but requires the author to know which slot was Bob's — which breaks anonymous wrap slots. ### Candidate C: Forward-secrecy ratchet `V_me` ratchets forward on a cadence. Old vouchees retain access to content encrypted before revocation; lose access to new. Avoids explicit revocation. Close to Signal's group ratchet. Complexity is significant. Would require a per-persona state machine, out-of-band sync of current epoch between persona's devices, etc. ### Candidate D: Accept the coarse rotation Acknowledge `V_me` rotation IS the revocation primitive. Smooth the UX: - UI: "Remove Bob from your Friends" → warns "This will re-distribute your Friends key to your other 49 Friends." - Background rotation task handles the N DMs. - Existing FoFClosed posts don't auto-re-wrap (remain under old `V_alice`). Author can opt to re-wrap specific posts via Layer 4. Lead leaning: **Candidate D**. The "problem" is mostly UX friction, addressable with good affordances. --- ## Open design questions (deferred) - Is there user demand for surgical revocation that doesn't rotate everyone? - What's the actual fanout distribution? If p95 vouchee count is <20, coarse rotation is a ~20-DM operation — tolerable. - Does Candidate D's UX feel heavy enough that users avoid revoking at all? (Anti-pattern: graph accumulates stale vouches.) - For Mode 2 (public posts with FoF comments), revocation has different urgency — author cares about who can still COMMENT, not about access to past content. Is surgical comment-only revocation simpler? (Hint: Layer 4 rotation on a specific post already does this coarsely — rotate `priv_post`, re-wrap under the narrowed set.) --- ## What Layer 6 should deliver IF we build it Not decided. Placeholder: - A defined revocation primitive (candidate selected). - Cascading / not-cascading behavior specified. - UI surface consistent with Layers 1–5. - Does NOT introduce per-vouchee public identifiers in any wire format. --- ## Decision point **Revisit after Layers 1–5 ship and 30 days of production usage.** Signals that would move Layer 6 into scope: - p95 vouchee count > 50 (coarse rotation cost meaningfully high). - User reports of "I want to remove X but not everyone." - Privacy audit finding that the DM-flurry of coarse rotation leaks social-graph change timing. Absent those, Layer 6 stays deferred.